Next Generation Workforce

From outreach to business: BIO5 Institute internships gives University of Arizona students perspective

BIO5 Ambassadors with the students who help facilitate the program
Two undergraduate students dove into outreach and finance during their year-long BIO5 Ambassador Internship.
Caroline M.M. Bartelme, BIO5 Institute

For seven years, an internship through the BIO5 Institute has given University of Arizona undergraduates a behind-the-scenes viewpoint into the business and marketing aspects of a research institute. They earn academic credit while choosing a project of their choice and attending professional development workshops developed by various BIO5 staff. 

This year, biomedical sciences major and senior Adeeb Hossain conducted outreach with Kelle Hyland, KEYS program manager, for the BIO5 Institute’s annual summer program focused on high school students interested in developing STEM skills. To learn the fundamentals of finance management, economics major and freshman Shiv Shukla worked with Sean Cadin, business manager at the BIO5 Institute. 

Learn more about their experiences! 


What have you learned from the BIO5 Ambassador program?  

AH: Innovation involves more than just the science portion; it takes a village. You need people from all backgrounds to see a project through from start to finish. 

SS: Through the BIO5 Ambassadors program, I learned the foundations of science communications and laboratory administration. 

 

What is your biggest takeaway?  

AH: Communicate. It is hard to go far in research without having an open mind and being able to talk to the right people.  

SS: My biggest takeaway from the internship has been a thorough understanding of the functions of the lab holistically, from research to financing to the community. 

 

Did you learn anything surprising or unexpected?  

AH: Your surroundings play a bigger role in creativity and exploration than you think. Place yourself in a creative, collaborative environment and see what comes to fruition.  

SS: One of the unexpected lessons I learned was during a professional development workshop led by faculty from the UArizona Eller College of Management. I learned about the different types of bias present in communication. 

 

How was your experience working with your BIO5 mentor? 

AH: I had a great experience working with Kelle Hyland and the KEYS facilitators. It was awesome to visit different high schools in Tucson and inspire the next generation of aspiring researchers to pursue a career in STEM.  

SS: Working with my mentor Sean Cadin has been a tremendously insightful experience. Under his tutelage, I learned the fundamentals of financial management with respect to research institutions.  

 

What would you say to someone interested in applying to the BIO5 Ambassadorship program?  

AH: This is a unique and rewarding experience that can give you a valuable perspective on the relationship between science and business. You won’t find anything like this from other internships.  

SS: I say put your best foot forward and get ready for an incredible and tailored learning experience, full of support and connections. 

 

What are your next steps in school or after graduation?  

AH: After graduating this spring, I will be attending medical school. 

SS: I will continue my degree program in economics and seek more opportunities to learn about healthcare and research administration. I will also be working in Phoenix over the summer with the BIO5 Institute. 

From networking to a job: Q&A with Michael Abrahamson, PharmD

Young people shaking hands at a student-industry networking event
Learn about the annual Student Industry Networking Event at the BIO5 Institute and how it helped a University of Arizona alumni and registered pharmacist find a local biotechnology job.

 

Many of us have heard how to find a job: ‘Go network.’ But what does that mean and look like? 

Since 2009, the annual Student Industry Networking Event (SINE) at the BIO5 Institute has connected University of Arizona students with representatives from the Arizona bioscience, biomedical and biotechnology industries. As part of its trifold mission, BIO5 is deeply invested in students, equipping them with the skills and real-world experience, be it through events or hiring student staff throughout the institute. 

Sponsored by BIO5 and the Bioindustry Organization of Southern Arizona (BIOSA), SINE strives to provide a learning opportunity to prepare trainees for future jobs. Even during the pandemic, the event pivoted to a successful online format in both 2021 and 2022 to continue to facilitate those critical connections between students and prospective employers. 

In recent years, the event has included both virtual and in-person opportunities. From career coaching by the UArizona Student Engagement & Career Development (SECD) Center and insights on hiring trends from leading life sciences and biomedical industry representatives to an in-person networking event with dozens of biosciences organizations. 

“Students are so immersed in their course work that they often miss out on reflecting about what they might do once they graduate,” said Uwe Hilgert, director of industry relations, STEM training and workforce development at the BIO5 Insitute. “Our Student Industry Networking Event is instrumental in providing University of Arizona students opportunities to connect with current employees in the biomedical industry, learn from the way their careers unfolded, and become part of a network that may help them in their own career development.” 

Over 1900 trainees have engaged in SINE with almost 400 representatives across industry, government, community, and academic organizations in the last 16 years of the event.  

BIO5 caught up with Michael Abrahamson, UArizona alumni and director of operations at Reglagene, to learn how SINE helped him in his career.

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Michael Abrahamson

Q&A with Michael Abrahamson, PharmD 

Give us your elevator pitch for your career. 

I am a registered pharmacist with a passion for advancing oncology assets from bench-to-bedside, utilizing my clinical expertise and business acumen. With over 5 years of experience in start-up environments, I have developed a strong affinity for the operational and business facets of the life sciences sector. My goal is to continue bridging the gap between research and patient care, driving innovation, and improving outcomes for cancer patients. 

 

What was your University of Arizona journey? 

I earned a Bachelor of Science in Physiology during my undergraduate studies. After graduation, I enrolled in pharmacy school at the University of Arizona, where I was part of the graduating class of 2020.  

After my first semester of pharmacy school, I gained research experience in Heidi Mansour's laboratory for two and half years. Additionally, I completed internships at the Medication Management Center, focusing on Medication Therapy Management, and at the Arizona Poison Control Center, where I took inbound calls for drug exposures and information. In my final year of pharmacy school, I pursued additional coursework at the James E. Rogers College of Law, earning a certificate in Regulatory Science. 

 

How did the Student Industry Networking Event (SINE) at the BIO5 Institute help you find a role in industry? 

SINE was an invaluable experience during my fourth year as a PharmD student. It provided me with a unique opportunity to interact with numerous companies in the life sciences sector right here in Tucson. I am incredibly grateful to SINE, as it played a pivotal role in securing my current job.  

Four years ago, I attended SINE with the intention of networking and exploring potential job opportunities. It was there that I had the pleasure of meeting Marie Wesselhoft, the CEO of a local diagnostics company and BIO5 Institute external advisory board member. A few weeks later, she introduced me to Richard Austin, the CEO of Reglagene. After several Zoom call interviews, Richard offered me a full-time position on the day I graduated from pharmacy school. I have now been with the company for four years. 

  

From an industry perspective, what is the impact of student networking events? Any words of advice for students looking for a job in industry? 

Networking events are essential for career growth. While it may sound cliché, the adage "it's not what you know, it's who you know" has proven true for me.   

Recognizing the importance of building connections in the life sciences sector, I actively sought out opportunities like SINE to expand my network, as I personally did not have many connections in the industry. I encourage others to do the same and attend as many networking events as possible. You never know who will introduce you to your future employer! 

Arizona community gets exclusive access at Behind BIO5 event

Felicia Goodrum speaks to a group on a tour at the BIO5 Institute
On April 3, the BIO5 Institute invited the community for an evening of intimate laboratory tours, captivating fireside chats, and engaging poster presentations by University of Arizona innovators.
Caroline M.M. Bartelme, BIO5 Institute

Over 100 community members received exclusive access to impactful research at the BIO5 Institute for the inaugural Behind BIO5: Meet the Scientists. 

From immersive research lab tours and research demonstration tables to engaging fireside chats and inspiring poster presentations, attendees learned about pioneering work driving progress in nutrition, cancer prevention, precision medicine, aging, and beyond.  

“This event gave us the opportunity to see labs, meet student scientists, and hear firsthand from the researchers about the many programs and groundbreaking research and development being accomplished at the University of Arizona,” said Bonnie Allin, Critical Path Institute board member. “BIO5 is a gem in which the community should take great pride." 

The goal of the evening was to provide a personalized journey through BIO5’s state-of-the-art facilities and allow guests to engage with BIO5 researchers directly. With 380 researchers from 18 colleges and over 70 departments across the university, the BIO5 Institute is a powerhouse of bioscience discovery and innovation. 

Meeting BIO5 scientists 

Attendees witnessed science in action with tours to over 18 labs and core facilities in the Thomas W. Keating Bioresearch and Biosciences Laboratory Building. While training the next generation of scientists, BIO5 focuses on moving innovations that improve human and environmental health out of the lab and into the community. 

“As the voice of business leaders in the region, the Southern Arizona Leadership Council (SALC) fully supports and appreciates the high-impact research and innovation occurring at the BIO5 Institute that contributes to a thriving knowledge-based economy,” said Allen Kinnison, SALC vice president. “BIO5’s contribution to scientific research is significant and can play an important role in the region’s economic development.” 

Fireside chats — including engineers, physician-scientists, and computational researchers — invited researchers from across the university campus. This series of focused conversations explored the people behind the core five disciplines represented by BIO5 — agriculture, engineering, medicine, pharmacy and science. 

Our work not only pushes the boundaries of science but also fuels Arizona’s agriculture and healthcare sectors with improvements in crop resilience, disease treatment, and health monitoring,” said Jennifer Kehlet Barton, director of the BIO5 Institute. “Through events like Behind BIO5, we open our doors to the community and stakeholders, showcasing the groundbreaking research happening at the university.” 

Several research groups affiliated with BIO5 set up interactive tables to give one-on-one research demonstrations. For example, guests could better understand brain health from the Brain Imaging Center, learn about sequencing technology from the Arizona Genomics Institute, explore microbiology with Paul Carini, associate professor of environmental science, or see how plant root architecture can solve agricultural challenges with Alexander Bucksch, associate professor of plant science. 

Creating connection for researchers

Events like Behind BIO5 not only make research accessible to guests, but also fosters interdisciplinary collaboration between scientists.  

"Behind BIO5 was beneficial to me in that it quickly reacquainted me with both the richness and breadth of the tapestry of expertise at BIO5 that seamlessly interlinks what seem on the surface to be disparate disciplines,” said Joel Cuello, a fireside chat guest, professor of agricultural and biosystems engineering at the College of Engineering, and member of the BIO5 Institute. “And, indeed, I just found and met through this notable event a future key collaborator for a timely area of research I am initiating.” 

Over 20 alumni from the BIO5 Institute’s Keep Youth Engaging in Science (KEYS) Research Internship presented posters that showed the culmination of their 7-week summer research experience under the mentorship of UArizona faculty, many of whom are BIO5 members. This opportunity allows the community to meet the next generation of innovators while encouraging these aspiring scientists to network. 

“As a KEYS Research Internship alum, the event provided an immense perspective,” said Moses Foiryolo, a UArizona physiology major pursuing his MD/PhD who was among 20 alumni from the KEYS Research Internship presenting a poster. “I saw how far I have come, not only as a researcher but as a person. It was amazing to see how resilient and hardworking my fellow alumni are. It couldn’t have been any more inspiring.” 


Upcoming public events include the BIO5 Inspiring Women in STEM event on July 13 from 11:30 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. in the Thomas W. Keating Building and the KEYS Research Internship Showcase from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. on July 19 in the Health Sciences Innovation Building on the University of Arizona campus.  

To stay up to date on upcoming news and events, sign up for the monthly BIO5 Connection newsletter 

Bridging worlds to connect science and storytelling

Science Talks Podcast Episode 50 Featuring Caroline Mosley
Caroline Mosley discusses her journey from ponds to policy and how she found a career path that explores the intersection of storytelling and science communication to drive societal impact.

Science ignites curiosity about the natural world, leading people to explore and advocate for it. Amy Randall-Barber from the BIO5 institute was joined on Science Talks by Caroline Mosley, the senior manager of communications and content at the BIO5 Institute, University of Arizona. Caroline's journey into science began with a fascination for ecosystems, studying invasive species in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Later, she moved to Washington, DC, where she worked on protecting marine life and the environment. Now at the UArizona BIO5 Institute as the senior manager of communications and content, Caroline crafts compelling narratives that highlight the institute's groundbreaking research and innovations. She tirelessly bridges the gap between science and society, utilizing innovative communication channels to highlight the institute's pioneering work.  


This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

 

ARB: Let’s start off with rapid-fire questions. First, Netflix or Hulu? 

Netflix. 

 

ARB: Dogs or Cats? 

I have cats, but I love dogs. 
 

ARB: Art gallery or history museum? 

Can I say science museum? 

 

ARB: That is great. I love it. Tell us a little bit about how you first developed an interest in science. 

I grew up in Wisconsin and was fortunate to live out in the country around ponds. I always loved going outside and thinking of all the little critters in the ponds. I loved to catch frogs, learn about all the different bugs, and look at the algae. I was always interested in how everything was connected and how there was so much life in such a small little area.  That to me was a starting point of seeing the natural world around me. My parents were very encouraging, so we went on a lot of nature walks and hikes, and I was immersed in nature which got me curious about how the natural world works. 

 

ARB: Absolutely, curiosity is usually what sparks an interest in science. Before you got into science communication, were you a researcher? Can you tell us about your experience in the field? 

Before I started writing about science and talking to scientists, I went to graduate school and I did environmental chemistry studying lake ecosystems in Milwaukee on Lake Michigan.  

My project was looking at nutrient cycling. Basically, studying mussel poop. Nutrients means you follow the poop in a system like Lake Michigan, which is very oligotrophic, meaning extremely low nutrients.  

In Lake Michigan, we have a lot of invasive species. I studied the Dreissena mussels, also called the zebra mussels or the quagga mussels that came from Russia through the St. Lawrence Sea Canal in ballast water around 50 to 60 years ago. Since mussels filter water, they draw the nutrients from the water down to the lakebed.  

My job was to study that and it was fun. I spent time both in the lab as well as the field. We would go out on these little boats on Lake Michigan and scoop up mussels from the lake floor to count them and see how many were present in a square meter. I would also take these mussels onto the boat and do- little experiments to see how much they could filter. 

I loved being on the water, being an active part of science. It was fun to see the mussels in their ecosystem, while at the same time also taking them out of that and studying the nutrients. We did chemical analysis to better understand how they filtered, how fast they filtered, and what they filter. I had a wonderful experience.  

It was funny, I originally wanted to study ponds and did not want to study big bodies of water. But my parents told me there is a new program at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee you should check it out. They thought all water research was the same, but limnology on the Great Lakes is more like marine research. Since those lakes are so deep, all the equipment we use is the same used for marine science. Another funny thing is that I get motion sick. Even though I had a fun time, looking back I do not think I would do it again because I spent a lot of my time being sick on the boat. I learned that about myself, but it was still great!  

 

ARB: Oh goodness, well, we always learn new things all the time. So, what made you realize you liked science communication, more than being in the field? 

I always love to write and read and I was a voracious reader. Growing up, I also loved the natural world. When I was in college, I thought about going into journalism. But there was a time back in 2008 when the economy was not doing too well. It was more about job security, so I thought going into science it would be more secure.  

But as I was doing science and going through graduate school, I thought, I am so curious about everything, I could not focus on one thing! I loved talking to different researchers, faculty, and students, and I would rather talk to people about what they do and support them.  

I found the field of science communication, and I could see there is a place for me. After I graduated, I did not want to go to work where many people at my school would go work, mostly in the field. 

One of my lab mates got a fellowship in Washington, DC. I applied for this fellowship too, through Sea Grant and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA. Hence, I moved to DC, which opened this world with all these different people who are supporting science. And I started to see a path for me in these supporting roles.  

Now, I have been on this journey to find a way to write and explore science while supporting research. So that is where I decided science communication encompasses that in many ways.  

 

ARB: Moving on, what are you most excited about in your role here at BIO5? 

I am most excited to talk to all the faculty members and students. The best part in whatever role that I have had at the University of Arizona is connecting with the people who do the work and learning from them. It is the highlight of my job. This is the reason as to why I got into this, getting to know people, and building relationships.  

My goal is to show: How can I help you, to help me. How can I promote your research? How can I help you find services?  If it is a student, then how can I help you get a portfolio piece? Making those connections is important.  

Here, I am at that intersection that highlights the connection of multiple disciplines. Because that's where innovation happens. It is as cheesy as it sounds, but it is true. When you get people that come together, who think differently to solve problems, that's how cool things happen.  

The role is challenging, and I like to be challenged. 

 

ARB: Do you have any advice for the next generation? 

I still don’t know what I want to be when I grow up, and I have come to terms with that.  

For context, my parents are retired physicians. They were always on a set path, and I always thought that's how life was. I have some friends who are lawyers and I have a friend who is a vet. Those are very set paths. You do step A to get to step B to get to step C. I always was looking for that path. I think realized is not easy to figure out what you like. But knowing what you do not like has been helpful for me.  

People ask me, what do you want to do? Well, I can tell you what I do not want to do, and that might be more helpful. You might really like science and or science communication, but you do not like writing. That is okay! There are all kinds of science and communication. You can edit written stories, be a photographer, build websites, or learn coding. There are diverse ways to support science.  

Plus, you do not have to know right away. It does get easier as you get older, and as you gain some experience and learn more about yourself. I would also say, do not be afraid. When I first graduated, I was in Wisconsin, and there weren’t any jobs for me. There was nothing that interested me, so I had to push myself outside of my comfort zone, and I did that by talking to people. So, another piece of advice would be to network, work on your LinkedIn, send messages to people with a specific ask. For example, ‘Hey, I see you work at NOAA, I am really interested in marine policy! What is your favorite part of your job?’  

These little things can help you gather bits of information. Don't feel like you must know what you want to do now. 

 

ARB: That is good advice. So, we have a fun question for our final question. If you could have a superpower, what would it be? And it does not have to be related to science. 

I would love to talk to animals.  

One of my favorite book series as I was growing up was Animorphs. I do not know if you have heard about it, but basically there was an alien invasion in this book series and these kids get these superpowers where they turn into different animals and that is how they save the world.  

So, I would say turning into animals or talking to animals. You look at animals and you cannot help but anthropomorphize them and wonder about what they are saying. 

 

ARB: Always wondering like what's going on in their little heads. Thank you so much for joining us today! 

Women in Medicine and Science Welcome Governor Katie Hobbs to Their Annual Networking Event

Women in STEM With Gov. Hobbs
UAZ Med Phoenix

Governor Hobbs urged attendees to take the lead in making medicine more equitable. Celebrating the impact that women are making in medicine and science and supporting their growth as leaders was the focus of the 6th Annual Women in Medicine and Science (WIMS) Fall Networking Event.

Women’s health, the microbiome and how bacteria can affect cancer

Science Talks Podcast Episode 48 Featuring Dr. Nicole Jimenez
Dr. Nicole Jimenez uses a microbiological lens to improve women’s health, studying bacterial vaginosis, gynecological cancers, and endometriosis.
BIO5 Institute

Unfortunately, many aspects of women’s health are underfunded and understudied. Better understanding women’s health conditions and microbiomes can help lead to better health outcomes and improve the quality of life. Amy Randall-Barber from the BIO5 Institute was joined on Science Talks by Dr. Nicole Jimenez, currently in the Melissa Herbst-Kralovetz lab, at the University of Arizona College of Medicine — Phoenix with a focus on women’s health research. She received her doctorate from Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine and was awarded two postdoctoral fellowships in 2023, one from the Community Foundation for Southern Arizona and the other from the BIO5 Institute. 


This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

 

ARB: Before we get started, I’d like to ask a few icebreaker questions. What’s one of your nicknames? 

I don’t have a unique nickname, just Nikki.  

But I was thinking more about this. I play Dungeons and Dragons, and one of my character’s names is Sin Nombre, which means ‘without name’. And the funny thing is that my PI, Melissa, worked early in her career on a virus called the Sin Nombre virus. I recently found this out and thought it was so interesting and serendipitous! 

 

ARB: That’s too cool!  

What’s your hidden talent? 

I would say my hidden talent would be cooking, and more recently mixology. During the pandemic, I was working on my dissertation, but I also picked up mixology. More recently, I've been focusing on non-alcoholic cocktails. I have many different wood burning tips for smoking as well as different bitters. It's a really fun experience. With the no-alcohol craze coming around, you still want to socialize and create a beautiful experience to share with others. 
 

ARB: What’s your favorite drink to make? 

As far as an alcoholic drink is concerned, I would say a Negroni. That has Campari, gin and some other bitters in it. Then for non-alcoholic, I usually make a rose mule with rose syrup and ginger. 

 

ARB: The rose mule sounds delicious. If I come to Phoenix, you’ll have to make me one! 

Let’s get into your research. What is your current research and what got you interested in it? 

I was recruited to the University of Arizona to work on the microbiome. In my graduate career, I was working on the microbiome and its relationship to pregnancy and preterm birth. Here, I get to work on the microbiome, including rectal, vaginal, endometrial, and how it relates to gynecologic cancers as well as benign gynecologic conditions such as endometriosis and chronic pelvic pain.  

I got into this research because when I was picking my major at Arizona State University, I became a nutrition major since I wanted to see how environmental factors impact health. I learned about the gut microbiome, and it got me fascinated with how that impacted human health. And so, I switched my major to microbiology and stayed in this vein of research. 

 

ARB: I love to hear those kind of journey stories and what the pivotal moments are.  

Can you tell us about the overall research goals of your lab? 

The Herbst-Kralovetz lab focuses on women's health research. We incorporate metabolomics, microbiome, and immunoproteomics to better understand how certain conditions occur. We also think about better ways that we can modulate the microbiome to have better health outcomes.  

Right now, our focus is on gynecologic cancers. Mostly cervical cancer and endometrial cancer, as well as these benign gynecologic conditions. Some of them have similar characteristics to cancers such as adenomyosis — an overgrowth of cells in the muscles of the uterus — as well as endometriosis and chronic pelvic pain. 

 

ARB: Can you tell us about the most exciting part of your research and how it fits in to those overall goals? 

As a woman working in the women's health space every day, I discover something different. It took me researching in this area to learn about the different symptoms. The most exciting part is not just learning all that information, but also trying to create change in the management of those symptoms.  

We're creating early diagnostics. For example, it currently takes six to seven years for a patient to get diagnosed with endometriosis. And that's not acceptable. My social science background has helped me understand some of these discrepancies and why they're happening.  

 

ARB: How do they diagnose endometriosis? 

Usually it's through symptoms, MRIs or other diagnostics. To fully understand endometriosis, you have to have surgery or biopsy, which is really invasive. Our lab is focusing on other ways that we can diagnose sooner and less invasively.  

 

ARB: That would be great for all women. 

Can you talk more about the difference between your two fellowships? Are the projects for your postdoctoral fellowships the same or different? 

Both fellowships that I was awarded are on a particular bacterium called Atopobium vaginae, now called Fannyhessea vaginae. During my graduate school career, we identified that this one bacterium is three. 

However, not a lot of research has been done on those three. Are they different from one another? Are they similar? This particular bacterium has been associated with bacterial vaginosis (BV), increased inflammation, and more recently, endometrial and cervical cancer. So, you can see how that ties into our lab’s overall goals.  

My project is focusing on those three newly identified species in our clinical cohorts for cervical and endometrial cancer. I’m also looking at associations for different clinical factors, metabolic profiles or immunoproteomic profiles.  

Then we also have this sub-study of my postdoctoral work in the Herbst-Kralovetz lab focused on a 3D cell culture model. It looks similar to human tissue, and we can infect these cells with bacteria. Then, we look at how they change the immune and metabolomic environment. That gives us better understanding of host pathogen interactions, such as how those bacteria are potentially progressing cancer. 

 

ARB: Have you had any influential mentors in your personal life or educational career? 

Many of my mentors are so important. I think I had my first mentor when I was in high school. And then when I went to undergrad, I had a whole bunch of different mentors because I was part of this scholar program called Los Diablos where you're assigned a mentor for each year that you're in the undergrad program.  

Then during graduate school, I obtained even more mentors, because I was part of the Initiative for Maximizing Student Development (IMSD) program and prep programs funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH).  

Currently, through the BIO5 Postdoctoral Fellowship, I created a mentorship committee where I have mentors in Tucson and Phoenix who are guiding me not only on my project, but also on career advice. Right now, as a postdoc, I’m wondering, “Where am I going next? How do I get there? What advice do they have that made them successful?”  

Because giving back to the community is important to me, I’m currently mentoring students in our lab, which is predominantly 90% women.  

I want to get more women interested in science and women's health, which tends to be underfunded and under researched. So, I’m involved with the WISE program, the Women in Science and Engineering at the University of Arizona as well as the Los Diablos program. Now instead of just being a mentee, I'm a mentor. 

 

ARB: That’s full circle! Thank you for all your mentorship.  

What’s next for you? Do you tend to live in the moment or have a big plan? 

I think it takes a bit of both to be successful in academia and in science. For me, I like to plan out major goals and how I can get there. But you also have to be flexible. Your experiment might not go right, or a grant opportunity might just pop up and you have to quickly apply for it.  

My next step is to work towards a K-99 grant, so that it can transition me from my postdoc position to an academic professorship position. I'm working on a few other grants now, too, and our lab is working on publishing many, many manuscripts.  

 

ARB: We will definitely be on the lookout for those papers. Thank you again for joining us and sharing your story.